September 27, 2009
The Post I Have Procrastinated
I have appreciated the conversations going on across the community, Here, and Here.
While reading the lastest post, I began to tell myself, why do I even respond. I am the only one with this opinion, why don't I just keep my mouth shut and not say anything. Then the thought came to me, 1- Maybe I am not the only one out there in the MOHO community that believes this way, and 2- I have every right to speak my mind as they do theirs.
So here I shall speak my mind.
Let me throw out my opinions and then sum it up in quick bullets.
The Church has a clear stance on homosexuality. Be active in the gospel, be a full contributing member, but live the same rules un-wed peoples do, or face the consequences. As a church that has "requirements" to maintain standing in the church, they have every right to make any rule they see fit. Even if we disagree with a rule, we have no place to tell them they need to change said rule, because we have a personal objection to it.
The Church claims and I sustain that it is led by God, and receives it's direction from Him. They do follow his will and guidance. When we tell the leaders they shouldn't mettle in Prop 8, we are telling God not to mettle in Prop 8. When we tell the church to change their codes of conduct, we are telling God to change His code of conduct.
If we don't believe the church is led by men called of God, then that is a whole different matter that you need to work out. Fix that first, because that is where the root of your troubles with understanding the churches stance rests.
Can the church be more accepting and loving to gays? Of course. Is God telling members to be rude and hurtful in their speech? No. But telling the church to change their position on gay marriage is telling God to change his mind.
Now some bring up the topic of blacks and the priesthood, and that would seem like a fair comparison but we need to remember one thing. It was not the leaders of the church who all the sudden said 'no blacks can hold the priesthood.' For whatever reason, God saw fit to delay the time when blacks could receive it. Unfair? probably, but it wasn't the first time a grouping of people could not have the priesthood. Back in the day only descendants of Aaron could have it. Time of Christ, only the Jews could and the Gentiles had to wait their turn. God saw fit to dely the time of blacks to receive the priesthood for whatever reason.
Will God one day see fit to extend marriage to homosexual couples. No. The whole purpose of marriage is not to allow people to be loved by someone. Marriage is to provide a bond and union in which to raise a family, God's spirit children, in a form he has prescribed. To see my thoughts further on the institution of marriage go here. Really this wont make sense unless you see where I stand on gay marriage.
Now, to force an institution, in this case, the church to change and adopt new rules because we (whatever the cause of 'we' is) is wrong; because a church is a organization, not a company, they do not conform to government regulations, and it should stay that way. I believe companies should not be allowed to discriminate, they should conform to an everyone is euqual platform, but they are a company not a church.
Now where does this leave gay members of the church who choose to not follow the guidelines the church has put out, that's for you to decide. If you don't feel you can live the life the church expects, then what do you want from the church?
I understand the church means a lot to you, because the church means a lot to me. I don't wanna lose the church in any way shape or form. However if I meet a man one day and I want to spend my life with him, then I forfeit the right to a standing in the church, because I violated the rules. I do that on my own free will, knowing full well what I am doing. There is no, 'the church is wrong on this position and they should change to allow me back in.' No. The church doesn't allow that. Will they and should they still love you? YES. But if you breech one clause on a contract, the contract is void. The Church has a contract and we sign it. We sign it knowing full well the position of the church.
Should the church change its position to conform to a social acceptable standard?
Should the church love and teach members to love gays as they would anyone else?
Do we have a right to demand the church change it's stance on gay marriage?
Should the church change its stance on gay marriage?